Programming is an act of giving a machine some instructions so it can perform things repeatedly.
Software engineering is an act of programming and everything else that goes along with it in order to deliver enterprise software to production.
Within software engineering, the more time you spend coding your applications and less worrying about DevOps things and processes, the better for you. Make sure you are heading in the right direction.
In conclusion, if the act of software engineering was close to the act of programming, then you basically reached that ultimate point in developers’ eyes. Wasn’t the original goal of cloud computing to abstract things for developers so you can ideally only focus on writing code?